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Tracy
Good Evening Dr. Catnrell and TxMary.

txmary
Hi Dr. Cantrell.

dr._cantrell
Hello how are you doing this evening?

txmary
My only child will be returning from A'stan in December. What do you suggest besides martinis?

dr._cantrell
Read up on what to expect. Start talking to your loved one and see what their expectations are when they return. Is your child a son or a daughter?

txmary
My son is a Lcpl, a weapons Bn. I've read 1 of your books.

dr._cantrell
Which one have you read? Is this his first deployment.

txmary
Yes, this is the first deployment. He is 20 years old. I know he will be different and so are his Dad and I.

txmary
Read, Once a Warrior, wired for life.

dr._cantrell
You should also read Down Range to Iraq and Back and the new one as well Souls Under Siege. Tracy has both in your bookstore. It is very important that you do not over parent him. He will not appreciate being micro managed. He may want to spend quite a bit of time with his fellow Marines, even doing things that you do not approve of, such as drinking, partying for example.

dr._cantrell
He may be wanting to isolate and it is very important that you don't ask him questions. Let him start the dialogue.

msj39
txmary - is he in Afghanistan?

Tracy
The question on the floor is what recommendation does Dr. Cantrell have for a Marine that will be returning from Afghanistan in December this year.

txmary
Yes, Weapons, way down south in a'stan.

dr._cantrell
So many parents feel that they are not wanting to be part of the family etc. Be sure to give them their space. Have his favorite foods and just keep an eye open to see how is managing this transition.

dr._cantrell
Start talking now, do not wait until he returns. This would be best so you kind of know where he is in what he is expecting.

msj39
That's easier said than done for some of us. We get a 5 minute phone call every one or two weeks.

dr._cantrell
You may also see that his sleep patterns are quite different from what other experience. Allow him to rest whenever and where ever he can

txmary
My son is not able to call often. When he does, he's vague about what to he wants to do when he first comes back. It's the homecoming I'm most concerned about. The first 4 days. After that, he will be home and doing the things he wants to do.

dr._cantrell
Yes, I understand, but you must let him determine what he needs. Many parents over parent, and want things to be like they were before they left.

msj39
2/8, That my son is with, has lost 7 guys. If he doesn't want to talk about it, do we just leave it alone?

dr._cantrell
Make the homecoming just easy going. Many of warriors don't want a lot of attention focused upon them, so if you must have a party do it at another person's home so he can leave whenever he wants without feeling strange.

Tracy
I would like to ask that we remember OpSEC guidelines in here, particularly for Marines that are deployed. Avoid identifying battalions, units, and in-country locations as well as homecoming dates. This is a public chat.

dr._cantrell
He more than likely will not want to talk about this. It is extremely painful and it is best that you have a veteran in the wings who can take him for coffeee or spend time with him so he has someone in his camp that is there just to listen who understands.

dr._cantrell
Don't push the issue, and just let him know you are there for him whenever he feels like needing to talk or for support.

valerie
Yes I do.

Tracy
Please, feel free to ask your questions now.

valerie
What are the signs of PTSD?

dr._cantrell
There are several signs and this certainly does not mean this is all: Isolation, avoidance, nightmares, flashbacks, sleep disturbance, anger, startle responses, but there are many behaviors that are common as well.

dr._cantrell
May be using alcohol to excess, sometimes used for sleep, make social interactions more bearable, to forget etc. The need for an adrenaline rush, with high risk behaviors. May be just disconnecting from family and friends, they do not feel as if they fit in.

dr._cantrell
They can be triggered back to a memory with an oder, sound, a touch.

auntmaia
So how do we make them feel they fit in.

dr._cantrell
My books goes into a great deal of detail and real examples of Combat Operational Stress or Post Traumatic Stress.

dr._cantrell
They must go on their journey, and it is so individual. Just love them as you always and watch them. They must find their way, but we can support them, encourage them to get help, and this help can come in many forms: Another Veteran, a Chaplain, a church community, and a family who is well informed about all aspects of these challenges

momstillwaiting
Is PTSD experienced only by those who have been in an actual war zone, or do others who have been deployed to other areas in the Middle East also experience it?

txmary
How do we handle anger or rage at something that occurs?

dr._cantrell
It is very important to know that 99.99% of them will have some Combat Operational Stress symptoms, this is to be expected. Now you may ask does this ever go away. PTSD can be experienced by those who are not in combat too. just being in a dangerous situation knowing that at anytime that they or their fellow Marines are in a threatening situation can turn into some stress symptoms.

dr._cantrell
As far as going away, it is all individual and the research shows if they get help early on the outcome is much better. Over time some of the symptoms disapate in some, however for others it can get worse. With treatment the objective is to learn what the triggers are, and get more of a handle on how they cope or respond

auntmaia
Lately when we talk to our soldier he makes it sound as if everything is fine-no big deal. Is this a defense mechanism?

Tracy
Everything is fine wih the mission or with him?

dr._cantrell
Yes, of course, they are great at compartamentalizing.

auntmaia
Him

txmary
The "favorite" word is "boredom" when we know they are not bored at all.

dr._cantrell
This is what they want to feel, but of course we know that this can be a defensive way of not letting people in too close. They are self-reliant and MARINES

Tracy
What are the differences between having stress symptoms, and having the disorder?

jan
I would not expect an answer to a direct question like that from any Marine or soldier.

Tracy
Everyone's definition of boredom is different; they may feel bored because they've had a day with no adrenaline rushes.

spidey
I am concerned. My son was in Iraq, and then he was sent to Afghanistan 16 weeks later. what do I need to watch for?

dr._cantrell
The difference lies in the level of distress. It is a continuum. When one has a diagnosis of PTSD, this means that their symptoms are such that this is interfereing with the quality of their lives, their relationships etc.

msj39
When you say "treatment," how do you convince the few and the proud to get that? I have heard that they all know exactly what to check or not check on those post deployment screenings so they avoid being identified with PTSD or anything else. It isn't manly. It is hard enough to convince the general public that it's okay to get help for mental health issues, but military guys are darn hard to convince.

jan
My son did get help ....and then was ridiculed.

dr._cantrell
I am sorry I don't understand not understanding this answer.

dr._cantrell
HOLD ON PLEASE.

Tracy
One questions at a time please.

dr._cantrell
I can;t keep up here.

dr._cantrell
I am going way back to the Anger and Rage now, so please wait for a minute while I answer this

dr._cantrell
Anger and Rage can be very dangerous. Do not approach them or say things that will hurt them. Don't point out how different they are, stay out of their way. When they are calm then let them know how this is not okay in your home and they must take themselves outside and you both must have a plan to deal with this. It can happen so quickly and is very common unfortunately.

dr._cantrell
Yes, they do get bored sometimes. Sometimes things are not a rush and like Tracy pointed out this is mundane and boring.

dr._cantrell
When they get home they put themselves into situations in which they will have the potential to create a rush, and this is also where high risk behaviours fit the bill as does anger and rage

dr._cantrell
Treatment, I am telling you what the experts say, however YOU cannot convince them to see a mental health provider most likely, and when I do my workshops I let my warriors know that help comes in many forms, like I mentioned before another veterans, a friend, a chaplain, etc.

dr._cantrell
There are many stigmas that are alive and well that keep them from coming forward to get help, although those who are well informed will find a way to talk to someone, but not always. I work very closely with theses military guys, and they are hurting big time, and I have leaders asking me to get out there and encourage them to take care of themselves

dr._cantrell
I want them to know that getting help and taking care of themselves on all levels is very important to remain in the game.

Tracy
Indeed. I know from personal experience, it's tough to get them started.

dr._cantrell
Yes, but lead by example, so leave things for them to read, call one of their buddies if you are concerned, they take care of each other.

msj39
I wish all the leaders would be receptive and encouraging, but we know that doesn't happen.

dr._cantrell
Am I caught up now?

Mom_Soz
I believe you are Dr. Cantrell?

Tracy
You don't have to share details with the buddy...just tell them your son needs a phone call.

Tracy
They know.

gigi
I just joined the chat and have a question.

Tracy
I would suggest meeting some otgher families at home coming...possibly the family of one of your son's buddies.

dr._cantrell
Yes this is true, not all leaders are supportive, and many of the leaders are also suffering themselves. It is sometimes difficult to see themselves when they look into the eyes of their warriors

Tracy
so the families can talk when there are concerns later...that's been a huge support for our family.

dr._cantrell
Yes, just a simple phone call will make all the difference, so know who to call, just in case!

momstillwaiting
Could you please define "high risk behaviors" and "situations that have the potential to create a rush"?

jan
In my son's case all the leaders he served with were reassigned almost immediately on their return

Tracy
Jan hold that thought...let Dr. Catnrell address this question first.'

dr._cantrell
High risk behaviors: Drugs, Alcohol, Women and Fast motorcycles. there many things they do to get that adrenaline flowing: Road rage, driving like they did down range, high speeds on motor cycles, pushing the limit with interactions with people, sometimes setting themselves up to come close to the edge of fighting.

auntmaia
So, how do we keep them safe while they are home?

dr._cantrell
You cannot keep them safe, they will do what they want and if you try to interfere this can work against you. They are big boys and have done well thus far, and this would be difficult for them to handle if you parent them in this way. This would set many of them off. I would just be very aware of how they appear and know your resources to contact if you feel he is having a difficult time

Tracy
One thing for certain that they need, is for recognition that they are an adult and in charge of their own life; micromanaging and being a helicopter parent are recipes for disaster.

dr._cantrell
Absolutley Tracy, this is so true!

Tracy
Dr. Cantrell, another question earlier this evening, was:

Tracy
Have you ever come across a diagnosis of PTSD being reversed later on?

dr._cantrell
Do you mean has the diagnosis been reevaluated by the mental health professsional?

Tracy
I am unsure. The person that asked was anonymous; let me ask. One moment.

gigi
My son in law is deployed and will be getting R&R in the next month or so. He has been gone 6 months so far and has a new daughter that he has not met. What should we expect from him as far as this first meeting?

Tracy
Someone has told the Marine/Soldier that he was misdiagnosed; he had been diagnosed by an "on base" Dr, then after a one hour evaluation with a civilian doctor, he was told he did not have PTSD.

Tracy
Wow, Gigi, that has potential to be really great, or really tough. I know Dr. Cantrell has seen this before and will have some input.

dr._cantrell
One thing you can do is ask him what he expects. These R & Rs can be extremely difficult. Perhaps he and the mother of the baby will need a couple of days alone to reconnect before he leaves, so find out if he would like this. Also babies crying can be very triggering for our warriors, this can have a completely different meaning to him. So find out what works for him and how he pictures his time being spent

dr._cantrell
I would be very careful about this situation with the struggle between the base and a civilian doctor. They have different frames of reference, and sometimes to be honest I think people can be misdiagnosed. Our warriors have a different presentation and your Marine may not have felt comfortable with the Civilian doc so he under reported his symptoms to the doctor. It is hard to tell.

txmary
How do we handle the "old friends"? The ones that swarm when our Marine is home and are still reliving their senior year in high school? Drink, smoke, and act stupid? Will our warrior want to be around those kids anymore?

jan
Let your Marine lead the way on that one.

gigi
Also, my daughter (his wife) is worrying herself sick over how to act, what to say, what not to say , etc during this R&R..

Tracy
This is going to be a stressful time for everyone GiGi.

Tracy
As much as we want R&R to be a good thing, it's very challenging.

dr._cantrell
You MUST run interferance. He probably will be bored because he has passed them by in terms of development on all levels of emotional, spiritual, and physical. He may want to see them but it probably is nothing to worry about because he will feel like he really has so little in common with them.

Tracy
Gigi, the book Souls Under Seige by Dr. Cantrell addresses this issues of multiple depllyments and whey they can't relax in the civilian world...they have to stay sharp...they're going back down range.

dr._cantrell
This is a very stressful time, and it can be awkward. Some of the girlfriends, wives are even somewhat afraid of having intimacy with them because they don't know how they will respond.

dr._cantrell
Yes, a Warrior must keep his edge sharp, not be caught flat footed, so with that being said it is difficult to come home for R&R when they are having to be "social" and then build their momentum up again so they are focused on the mission when they return to their Marines.

dr._cantrell
Our Warriors are having a difficult time with these transitions from War zone to Civilian world for many reasons, but one that we must remember is that they are leaving an urban setting in the sandbox, and returning to an urban setting.

txmary
What are some Good signs to watch for?

dr._cantrell
Nervousness, excess alcohol, sleep issues, anger, isolation, not talking, staring into space, nightmares, road rage just for a few, however with traumatic brain trauma there are also behaviors of mental confusion, visual changes, hearing issues, etc

Tracy
I don't want to miss this question Dr. Cantrell. Jan, you said your son's command were all relocated upon stateside return; do you feel that impacted your son's ability to handle stressors he may have had?

jan
Yes, absolutely! I feel if he had the same , or some of the same leaders around him for a longer period, he would not have had such a bad transition.

Tracy
And Dr. Cantrell, I've seen instances where Marines that get out of the Corps soon after deployment have a very tough time with transition. Similar?

dr._cantrell
The stabiity of having those around him that know him would certainly impact his transition.

dr._cantrell
Yes, indeed, they feel alone and they are alone. They are not surrounded by "his people", and this can be very difficult.

Tracy
Are there folks in the room whose Marine/Soldier may be ready to get out of the service soon after return from combat?

jan
He was put in a situation of working with new leaders who had no combat experience and were not willing to listen to these Marines that were under them.

Tracy
And that is the peril of the chain of command in the Marine Corps; makes great warriors, but in "work environments" it's not nearly as tidy.

jan
He did end up leaving shortly after his return home.

dr._cantrell
Oh this can be a recipe for disaster. These Marines are warriors and they bond and rely upon eachother, and when they have leaders who come in and have not been in combat and they are calling the shots, this gets their blood boiling.

jan
Very difficult to go from clearing houses to raking leaves!

Mom_Soz
A friend of my son's EAS'd within 2 weeks of their return from their last deployment... he has had a difficult time adjusting to be a civilian.

Tracy
Indeed, I can't imagine my own son's reaction to something like that.

Tracy
They all have potential to have a tough transition; but boy, with only two weeks to be with your brothers, I can imagine how devastating that could be.

dr._cantrell
Sometimes these challenges in transitioning show up weeks or months later

Tracy
Yes, and again, I have experience with phone calls a year or more after EAS from parents who are concerned that much later...everything was fine until a year later.

Tracy
It's critical, when EASing, that we encourage all veterans to go to the VA to sign up for benefits.

jan
Some of this anger comes out if he drinks.

dr._cantrell
Yes, indeed. They go through a process of having expectations that this will settle down and they will get back into their lives as they were before but this does not go so well, and they start getting frustrated with themselves.

txmary
My anxiety level is going up, even though I thought that was not possible. Thank you, Dr. Cantrell for your time and advice. I believe I need to read your books again. This deployment has taken a toll on all of us.

Tracy
Indeed Mary, and that's important too.

dr._cantrell
Yes, signing up at the VA is a must, they have to get into the system. This is vital.

Tracy
How do YOU feel as a parent? Combat deployments are stressful for US too.

dr._cantrell
Mary don't lose hope here,

dr._cantrell
We are talking about potential issues and it does not mean that everyone is going to have all of these challenges

jan
Be aware...that is very stressful for these guys. Especially if you live in a busy area!

dr._cantrell
This is one reason why even family members can be affected by their warriors

dr._cantrell
and the stress they bring home, so have a support system in place for yourselves as well, and practice good self care!

Tracy
Yes, I was revisiting some of my 2003 fears at a presentation I gave today, and it was really tough to drudge all of that back up.

txmary
Well, life at home here will be anything but a rush!

Tracy
Take his lead Mary; let him decide what he wants to do when he gets home.

dr._cantrell
Yes, you can also be traumatized, and feel depressed and helpless to do much to change the course of your warriors journey, but you DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE

txmary
Maybe I should arrange a sky diving lesson just to juice things up!

Tracy
And truly, Dr. Cantrell's books are so valuable to understand basic components, and that understanding empowers you.

dr._cantrell
He has survived what none of us can imagine, they are tough and well conditioned, just be there to catch him and let him know you love him no matter what!

dr._cantrell
Mary, now you are talking, this is fun and humor is so vital to making it through.

Tracy
Is a hot air balloon ride adrenaline?

dr._cantrell
In my world even a roller coaster is too much YIKES!!!

txmary
Hot air balloon? Bring a big pin!

Mom_Soz
It would be for me Tracy

Tracy
Indeed.

momstillwaiting
I agree--it can be very stressful when our son is home because his experience is so very different (even in training) than what he left behind. We are so B-O-R-I-N-G now. Is it common for single Marine men to have their civilian girlfriends dump them because they just can't understand what they have been through. I have heard my son say that sometimes converstaions seem so trite because his experience is so out of the ordinary and non Marine folks just don't get it.

Tracy
Putting on the breaks when I follow to close behind anyhone makes my heart race.

dr._cantrell
I would be bringing an extra torch just in case, Ha Ha!

jan
Just don't be disappointed if he is not ready for crowds yet.

momstillwaiting
Sorry I had lots I was writing and didn't mean to send it all at once.

Tracy
Well, one thing I have learned...

Tracy
That time does make things easier to cope...and someday, I hope time will heal. It's a long trip...

dr._cantrell
Yes there are dear john and even dear Jane letters all the time. They have grown apart and there is a great deal of tension in relationships. Sometimes jealousy of the military relationships and the tight bonds, pull these couples apart as well.

Tracy
That's interesting Dr. Cantrell; much like someone who is over-dedicated to their job?

dr._cantrell
Yes, we are BORING, but sometimes it is great to have a landing place that is safe and familiar.

Tracy
vpm of josh, do you have a question?

vpm_of_josh
My youngest daughrer (16) is very close to her brother and is expecting him to come back "like normal". I have tried to explain to her that he may act differently, etc. Is there something you would suggest? To say? or one of your books? Not sure how much is too much

Tracy
While she's typing, we have just over 30 minutes left. I want to be sure we've addressed everyone's issues; if you are not comfortable asking a question, please let me know and I'll ask for you.

dr._cantrell
Yes, please have her read all my books, and have her even do a book report for one of her classes and if she wants to interview me like many kids have for a class report that would be great. I do this over the email.

vpm_of_josh
Thank you. I will. I have your books.

Tracy
I have another anonymous question Dr. Cantrell.

Tracy
Are we, as parents, viewed too boring when our warriors come home? Things have changed here but we aren't getting shot at.

vpm_of_josh
How would she email you.

dr._cantrell
Nothink is too much, the more prepared she is the better he will feel.

momstillwaiting
This is a great suggestion--our Marine has 4 younger siblings at home.

Tracy
The books are very easy reading; not too complex.

vpm_of_josh
Yes Ive read them and enjoyed them.

Tracy
I was suppose to bundle them all for sale in the store today, at $36.85 for all three, and I didn't have time.

dr._cantrell
Now aren't parents most of the time thought of a "too Boring" as just part of the developmental phase. Now when our warriors return they are stoked and this is normal adjustment period.

Tracy
If you want to email me, I'll make sure we sell them to you at that price.

jan
I can't thank you both enough for the work you do.This is a huge help. god bless all our Marine and soldiers.

dr._cantrell
But there is nothing like moms homecooking to move through all of that!

vpm_of_josh
Or dad's cooking :)

Tracy
Oh that sounds great, and it's oh so true!

Mom_Soz
That's very true

txmary
Thank you for your time and suggestions!

vpm_of_josh
Ty I need to head back to recruit room.

Tracy
If you email me, I'll get the special pricing on the books...

Tracy
Actually email Eric, he'll ship them to you. xxxx@MarineParents.com.

dr._cantrell
Oh yes, A Dad's homecooking, or a little sister who prepares cookies, it is a family affair and you will all work it out.

jan
my son sent me a list!

Tracy
That's a great ice breaker

Tracy
What are your favorite meals and what can I cook for you when you get home.

Mom_Soz
That's great jan.... at least that way you knew exactly what he wanted.

dr._cantrell
This is so true, food nourishes our souls, and this is such an sweet gesture of love!

Tracy
Oops, she's left, Darnit.

jan
Just about everything I ever made...including Christmas cookies. It was May...he got them!

Tracy
Auntmaia, have your questions been addressed well enough tonight?

dr._cantrell
one of my soldiers who was on his way home decided after reading my books that he did not want his wife to stock alcohol in the fridge, it was something that would lead to problems.

momstillwaiting
Guess we should send our Thanksgiving boxes elprompto!

Mom_Soz
From my own personal experience, just the act of preparing those favorite things during the days before his return, helped me "destress" during those final days.

Tracy
Oh that's true too Mom Soz.

dr._cantrell
For sure, this is your contribution to his readjustment.

Tracy
But in my house, me cooking would be THE stressors.

auntmaia
This has been a wonderful help to hear all of you. Thank you so much. Now I need to do my homework and get those books.

momstillwaiting
Yes, our Marine says not to send him anything, but it is more of a therapy for me than for him.

dr._cantrell
You are funny Tracy, I am sure you an incredible cook, just have it done before he gets home right?

Mom_Soz
That's very true mom_soz

momstillwaiting
He has only been gone two months and I have sent him two big box of goodies...like it or not!

dr._cantrell
If you send something to ALL of his fellow Marines, I am sure you would be a hit!

jan
Send it anyway! my experience has been that everyone else willLOVE it.

Tracy
Indeed.

Tracy
.I loved sending care packages

dr._cantrell
You go girl! I can gaurantee you if he doesn't like it there are others who do!

Tracy
I would go grocery shopping for the family and come home with only care package items.

jan
I still make stuff for a few of his and my other sons freinds.

Tracy
We had to eat beef jerkey and butterfinger for dinner.

dr._cantrell
Yes, this is easing the pain of many by your kindness.

Mom_Soz
and so will he... I found my son would tell me not to send packages because he was worried about the expense... he enjoyed getting every single one of them.

Tracy
Isn't that funny mom soz?

Mom_Soz
yes.

Tracy
Worried about the expense...little do they know.

Tracy
tt's Mom Therapy.

Mom_Soz
They don't realize that it is our therapy.

Tracy
yep.

jan
You raised him to be concerned for others...that is one reason he is a MArine

Tracy
Dr. Cantrell, tell me what your travels are like the next few months...and possible when can you do another chat night with us?

Mom_Soz
Does anyone have any other questions for Dr. Cantrell this evening? We have about 25 minutes left of our time together

dr._cantrell
November and December are getting busy, but I will always make time for the chats

Tracy
Excellent; we're liking this Wednesday chat.

momstillwaiting
I have to go...thank you D. Cantrell and those who monitor this site. I am planning to ask our local library to buy your books so I will have more money to send more care packages. G'night.

Tracy
Spidey, did you have more questions?

spidey
Dr. Cantrell my son is coming home in the near future. This is his second deployment with only 16 weeks between deployments. Should I be looking for something? Should I be reading something. I worry about two deployments so close together.

dr._cantrell
You are welcome.

dr._cantrell
Yes, please read my books, and my new one Souls under Siege is about the effects of multiple deployments, but they all offer something that is important to look for.

auntmaia
Can you give me the names of the other books again please?

Tracy
https://marineparentsinc.com/store.asp

dr._cantrell
Give him space, and yes this is a short period between deployments, but he probably would not want to be any where else.

dr._cantrell
Down Range To Iraq and Back, Once a Warrior: Wired for Life, and Souls Under Siege: The Effects of Multiple Troop Deployments and How to Weather the Storm.

jan
Thank you all very much. God bless and goodnight. p>dr._cantrell
Read as much as you can and talk to other parents, they are wealth of information.

Tracy
Are there other questions, stories, concerns?

..BarbTX
Dr Cantrell. I'm reading your Once a warrior book and have found it very helpful. My question: Why is it that the military doesn't help more with de-briefing these heros? To help prevent these issues?

dr._cantrell
You cannot prevent these issues to begin with it is something that goes along with intense emotional experiences. I know that the military are doing things differently than they used to in regards to bringing these challenges to the forfront. But each warrior has a different level of resiliency etc, from which to draw strength.

..BarbTX
I see what you mean about not preventing them to begin with, but perhaps recognizing and coping with them. I am glad to know they are doing things differently. I look forward to finishing your book and passing it on to my daughter in law. Thank you <

dr._cantrell
You are welcome. I know that they are doing things differently, because there is a great deal of more awareness and check and balances from outside and within the military

..BarbTX
I will get your other books as well.

Tracy
comparing homecoming and procedures from 2003 to today is a huge difference.

dr._cantrell
Thank you.

dr._cantrell
Yes, there is a great deal of difference.

dr._cantrell
They are listening.

..BarbTX
That is very encouraging. My son will return soon and I want to be well prepared.

dr._cantrell
Just take it easy and go with the flow.

..BarbTX
Thanks. Sounds like a good rule for all sorts of life experiences.

Mom_Soz
Are there any other questions for Dr. Cantrell this evening?

Tracy
We just have a few minutes left. Are there any last minute questions?

Tracy
I want to thank you Dr. Cantrell, again, for an amazing evening.

Tracy
Transcripts from tonight will be published on our website.

..BarbTX
Yes. thank you both for your time and expertise.

Mom_Soz
Yes, Thank you Dr. Cantrell.

Tracy
In the next few days; we'll remove any identifying information or units or locations prior to publishing.

dr._cantrell
You are welcome.

Tracy
Past chat stranscripts are available, and all of the books mentioned tonight are in our coporate store.

dr._cantrell
Tracy does 12 Nov work for next chat?

Tracy
And Dr. Cantrell will be at our conference in April in New Orleans.

dr._cantrell
Yes, this will be great.

Tracy
Yes, that sounds great to me; Deb, how about you?

Mom_Soz
I can make that work.

Tracy
We'll be at the JW Marriott on Canal Street.

Tracy
April 16-18 I believe.

dr._cantrell
Great location.

Tracy
Indeed!

..BarbTX
Good night all. Semper Fi and God Bless our Marines!

Tracy
I'm looking forward to it!

Tracy
Thank you Dr. Cantrell. You are a blessing to so many of ourmilitary men and women. Thank you so much.

dr._cantrell
Same to you Tracy, you are incredible!

Tracy
Good night everyone. See you November 12.

auntmaia
Good night all and I look forward to the next chat.

dr._cantrell
Ok I will mark my book.

vpm_of_josh
Tracy: how do we get the 3 books? us mentioned earlier.

Mom_Soz
In our corporate store.

Tracy
Email xxxx@MarineParents.com

Tracy
Tell him you want the pricing for all three books.

vpm_of_josh
ty will do.

vpm_of_josh
Thank you Dr Cantrell.

dr._cantrell
Thank you for having me here tonight!

Mom_Soz
Good night everyone, thank you again Dr. Cantrell.

dr._cantrell
Good Night! Take care of yourselves, and our Marines!


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